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Post by koiseptember »

Thanks for the review Thrasher. And I'm with you on finding the right spot to stand on this loud tour. +1 on the keys, Mark P, etc.

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Thanks for the question. Me crapping on teeter totter is only reason these guys are together but looking forward to someone who thinks he can play a guitar talk about microphones. :x

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Post by ThrasherBear »

widespreadchanges wrote:Kitaen :x
Yeah, I know--I usually try to get near the board. But part of a show is seeing the band interact too. The little nods, sideways glances etc. And dang, this is one great band.

Mark, what's the sound like for you guys on stage? Are you getting a full mix straight from monitors, earphones? Does what you hear vary much venue to venue?

Hope you guys had fun in SF (or as Jay called it "your fair city)--noticed you scheduled a day off here. Assume Jay made the pilgrimage to City Lights.

Keep it going--you guys are on a roll!

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Thanks for the review mtruslow. :x

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Post by mtruslow »

When I saw Son Volt in DC @ 930 Club I was right in front of Jay and his amp. I really only heard Jay's guitar because I was right there. It was great and loud as fuck. I loved it.

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bellevillemusic wrote:I was upstairs in one of the alcoves and the sound was less than desirable. All the opening numbers in the key of E-major or drop-D were quite muddy sounding. By the time my wife and I made it downstairs (she has a foot injury) and were standing to the left of the sound board for Ten Second News; the sound was noticeably better and down right awesome by that point.
The alcove is the area on the sides of the venue underneath the balcony. As for the balcony at GAMH (or other venues with an upper level like Independent), why would anyone think that the sound would be decent up there? I highly doubt that the soundperson thinks about the sound quality up there during the show or soundcheck.

Regardless of the sound, nobody can deny that SV played a great show. We've been waiting 4 years for Jay to get the band out on tour again and it was well worth the wait. Hopefully he won't make us wait another 4 years.

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Mark Spencer wrote:Without fail the worst place to stand at any concert, to hear the whole show mixed well, is at the front of the stage, unless you're there to acquire set lists or see what kind of shoes the band is wearing or REALLY like loud guitars and don't give a shit about the vocals or are cataloging masturbation fantasies. Second worse is usually the back of the hall due to bass-traps and talkers. Get in the triangle, music people! (you can always spot the real music people at a concert, they're never at the front of the stage....always in the triangle)
Agreed. I like the triangle idea. The sound is usually best near the soundboard, but there were too many chatters in the back, mainly because of the bar. Also, there's always that guy who's way too fucking tall and very unapologetic and has to stand right in front of you after you find that visual and acoustical sweet spot. Can there be a rule for people over 6' to stand at the back side of the triangle?
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Post by criminals »

I sat right behind the soundboard at the show at the Pageant in STL and it might have been the best concert experience of my life.

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Post by Texas Tom »

Ive seen Jay/Son Volt probably 5 or 6 times and the sound has been pretty rough at times...the show with Canyon at Sons of Hermann Hall sounded great imo... other shows it was too loud and muddy

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Kitaen :x

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Without fail the worst place to stand at any concert, to hear the whole show mixed well, is at the front of the stage, unless you're there to acquire set lists or see what kind of shoes the band is wearing or REALLY like loud guitars and don't give a shit about the vocals or are cataloging masturbation fantasies. Second worse is usually the back of the hall due to bass-traps and talkers. Get in the triangle, music people! (you can always spot the real music people at a concert, they're never at the front of the stage....always in the triangle)

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Post by bellevillemusic »

cogsboy wrote:Not sure if I totally agree with the poor sound quality at GAMH. I stood near the same location as Thasherbear and I thought it sounded fine. Mind you, the GAMH space is narrow compared to most venues, plus it has the alcoves on both sides, so it's not exactly a dream location for any high-quality sound, especially for a full-on rock show. I remember Paul Westerberg played there with a full band in 2015 and the sound wasn't impressive but it wasn't bad either. When Farrar plays there on his own or as a duo, it's totally fine.

I agree that too many people were chatting during Anders' performance. However, Anders selected a lot of quieter songs, and although they were awesome, they were not conducive to the vibe of the show. If he had opened up for Jay during his solo/duo/trio tours, then it would have been extraordinary. The sound of the audience just carries too much at GAMH.

Otherwise, it was an excellent show for both SV and AP. Hope they come through NorCal again in the near future.
I was upstairs in one of the alcoves and the sound was less than desirable. All the opening numbers in the key of E-major or drop-D were quite muddy sounding. By the time my wife and I made it downstairs (she has a foot injury) and were standing to the left of the sound board for Ten Second News; the sound was noticeably better and down right awesome by that point.

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Post by widespreadchanges »

Hey cogsboy. That is a nice review. :x

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Not sure if I totally agree with the poor sound quality at GAMH. I stood near the same location as Thasherbear and I thought it sounded fine. Mind you, the GAMH space is narrow compared to most venues, plus it has the alcoves on both sides, so it's not exactly a dream location for any high-quality sound, especially for a full-on rock show. I remember Paul Westerberg played there with a full band in 2015 and the sound wasn't impressive but it wasn't bad either. When Farrar plays there on his own or as a duo, it's totally fine.

I agree that too many people were chatting during Anders' performance. However, Anders selected a lot of quieter songs, and although they were awesome, they were not conducive to the vibe of the show. If he had opened up for Jay during his solo/duo/trio tours, then it would have been extraordinary. The sound of the audience just carries too much at GAMH.

Otherwise, it was an excellent show for both SV and AP. Hope they come through NorCal again in the near future.

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Post by widespreadchanges »

Thank you Tokyo Fan, you made my day... mind? I really don't have time to read band droppings but....I bet J Farrar has the coolest haircut known to man all these years..

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