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dcarter wrote:
Tokyo Fan wrote:
Mark Spencer wrote:
Tokyo Fan wrote:One nitpick on The Reason: at 2:15 in, there's the line "with the company that you keep", which shoehorns in an extra syllable. Personally, I don't think dropping the "that" would change the meaning and, in my opinion, it would flow better: "with the company you keep", is the same meaning.
After all this time the message board is still a barrel of righteous gags and howls!!!
Absolutely. (No idea what you're babbling about. Did you miss the "nitpick" part? If you think it flows fine, or is part of a signature component of Farrar's lyric writing...or whatever, just say so. I guess I'm naive to think that this is s place to engage in conversation. Or maybe it's just you.)
After all this time Mark Spencer is still a barrel of righteous gas and arrogance.

Mark, he said, "One nitpick". Guy admitted that it could be seen as pedantic. Only a Spencerian pot would call out an admitted kettle. Don't ever change.
BUMP!! Mr. Spencer wouldn’t want to miss this.

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Tokyo Fan wrote:
Mark Spencer wrote:
Tokyo Fan wrote:One nitpick on The Reason: at 2:15 in, there's the line "with the company that you keep", which shoehorns in an extra syllable. Personally, I don't think dropping the "that" would change the meaning and, in my opinion, it would flow better: "with the company you keep", is the same meaning.
After all this time the message board is still a barrel of righteous gags and howls!!!
Absolutely. (No idea what you're babbling about. Did you miss the "nitpick" part? If you think it flows fine, or is part of a signature component of Farrar's lyric writing...or whatever, just say so. I guess I'm naive to think that this is s place to engage in conversation. Or maybe it's just you.)
After all this time Mark Spencer is still a barrel of righteous gas and arrogance.

Mark, he said, "One nitpick". Guy admitted that it could be seen as pedantic. Only a Spencerian pot would call out an admitted kettle. Don't ever change.

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Post by professor_squishy »

Great song, indeed very Petty-esque - chiming 12 string; great chord progression.

I tried to work out the chords, someone please check my work. :-)

Capo 2

Verse/Chorus (one and the same?):

D D Em A G D Em A

Bridge:

Bm A D G Bm A F# G

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Post by Redsun »

Very warmth tune. Reminds me Mr Petty's "Walls". Setlist needs this song. Just beautiful.

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Mark Spencer wrote:
Tokyo Fan wrote:One nitpick on The Reason: at 2:15 in, there's the line "with the company that you keep", which shoehorns in an extra syllable. Personally, I don't think dropping the "that" would change the meaning and, in my opinion, it would flow better: "with the company you keep", is the same meaning.
After all this time the message board is still a barrel of righteous gags and howls!!!
Absolutely. (No idea what you're babbling about. Did you miss the "nitpick" part? If you think it flows fine, or is part of a signature component of Farrar's lyric writing...or whatever, just say so. I guess I'm naive to think that this is s place to engage in conversation. Or maybe it's just you.)

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Tokyo Fan wrote:One nitpick on The Reason: at 2:15 in, there's the line "with the company that you keep", which shoehorns in an extra syllable. Personally, I don't think dropping the "that" would change the meaning and, in my opinion, it would flow better: "with the company you keep", is the same meaning.
After all this time the message board is still a barrel of righteous gags and howls!!!

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One nitpick on The Reason: at 2:15 in, there's the line "with the company that you keep", which shoehorns in an extra syllable. Personally, I don't think dropping the "that" would change the meaning and, in my opinion, it would flow better: "with the company you keep", is the same meaning.

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All three songs are now active on streaming.

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Tokyo Fan wrote:I read the Folkways piece that was below (in Paste). "Rebel Girl" is a cover of a Joe Hill song.
Thanks for pointing that out! It would be cool if Son Volt wore
their pink hats on this one.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/ ... music.html

"Music works in a similar way. "Times change, but inspiration for music, social struggle or whatever, those things don’t change," says Jay Farrar. The Son Volt leader and Uncle Tupelo co-founder spent much of his teenage years absorbing the Folkways catalog at his local library, which helped shape the sound of some of Uncle Tupelo’s music. The band’s third record, March 16-20, 1992, featured six traditional songs and a bunch more that sounded like it. Son Volt’s upcoming ninth studio album, Union, includes a cover of "Rebel Girl." Though the labor organizer Joe Hill wrote "Rebel Girl" more than 100 years ago, Farrar sees parallels with the present day. "Right now we’re kind of experiencing a cultural divide," he says. "No matter what century you belong to, some things never change, so I think that’s why I chose that song. It still resonates." ("Rebel Girl" isn’t part of The Social Power of Music, but a song about Hill is.)

That songs like that do still resonate speaks to the value of collections like The Social Power of Music, Flemons says. "A song is easy to lure people in. You have other things besides the actual message that can draw people in," he says. "As the young people are finding they need something to say, this type of reference guide to what can be done is essential to anybody who wants to sing something that can change the world."

Joe Hill - Rebel Girl 1914/15
First published in the March 1916 edition (ninth edition; "Joe Hill Memorial Edition") of the Industrial Worker "Little Red Songbook."
© 1916

There are women of many descriptions
In this queer world, as everyone knows.
Some are living in beautiful mansions,
And are wearing the finest of clothes.
There are blue blooded queens and princesses,
Who have charms made of diamonds and pearl;
But the only and thoroughbred lady
Is the Rebel Girl.
CHORUS:
That's the Rebel Girl, that's the Rebel Girl!
To the working class she's a precious pearl.
She brings courage, pride and joy
To the fighting Rebel Boy.
We've had girls before, but we need some more
In the Industrial Workers of the World.
For it's great to fight for freedom
With a Rebel Girl.
Yes, her hands may be hardened from labor,
And her dress may not be very fine;
But a heart in her bosom is beating
That is true to her class and her kind.
And the grafters in terror are trembling
When her spite and defiance she'll hurl;
For the only and thoroughbred lady
Is the Rebel Girl.

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I read the Folkways piece that was below (in Paste). "Rebel Girl" is a cover of a Joe Hill song.

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Post by criminals »

Yes, outstanding sums it up. Really like this one. Thanks for posting.

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Outstanding.

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Post by Tokyo Fan »

Another nice one. The little snippet that we heard earlier didn't do it justice. I really like the instrumental break starting from around the 3 minute mark.

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Post by turpentim »

Somehow he keeps coming up with one gorgeous melody after another. Great tune!

Tim in the ATL

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https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/ ... eason.html

Lyrically the song touches on the ambivalence of watching one’s kids set out as adults—knowing the adventures and trials they will go through. Musically it’s all about the 12-string guitar (acoustic and electric) and that inspirational sound of The Byrds and Tom Petty.

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