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November
2003
By J.D. Rush
Although
Jay Farrar (formerly Uncle
Tupelo and previously Son
Volt) has become a piece
of Americana history, pinned
with spawning a 90s-on,
alt-country movement and
consequent media, he somehow
easily transcends the genre.
The
past reveals that every
monumental movement often
begins and ends with its
predecessorPunk-Sex
Pistols, Grunge--Nirvana,
Emo-Sunny Day Real
Estate-and so on.
Of course, this is all debatable
and maybe even dispensable
because, in the end, all
music is subjective and
not exactly engineered for
category. Its no coincidence
that all the previous mentioned
artists eventually despised
their narrow placement.
But
the floating fact in all
the alt-country muck is
that Jay Farrar has always
been chiefly concerned with
being Jay Farrar-coming
with a perspective that
evokes unique, real emotion
despite the alt-country
label. Thats the reason
he can do things like self-release
his own solo record and
tour alone to packed houses.
And, with what seems like
two already rich careers
behind him, theres
no hint of stagnancy.
Terroir
Blues, his second full-length
solo release, is another
move forward musically with
even gutsier, more introspective
lyrics. Backwards loops
reminiscent of The Beatles
Revolver are spliced between
Farrars interesting
take on ghostly folk. Songs
like Fool Kings
Crown mocks popular
sentiment and culture with
the help of lead Bottle
Rocket Brian Hennemans
electric slide sitar
while the ominous Cahokian
explores a Mississippian
civilization thats
erased Indian burial mounds
through urban development
leaving you to wonder if
history is doomed to repeat
itself.
Loneliness
of the moving American landscape
and the realigning of feelings
stirred from his fathers
recent death, among others
things, push his songwriting
to an even more personal
level. The albums
title is even a precursor
to its tones of hometerroir
is translated literally
in French as soil--
a nod to the strong French
influences in St. Louis,
where Farrar currently resides.
I
caught up with him before
a show on his current tour
with Canyon in Nashville,
TN shortly after Johnny
Cashs death.
Notoriously
tight-lipped in interviews,
I was relieved to see hes
extremely friendly. It seems
he prefers his music to
speak where his quiet persona
doesnt. When he does
talk, its deliberate
and at his own pace. During
conversation, hes
full of observations and
intent on listening.
Farrar
met me for lunch in front
of his ragged hotel-- a
former Shoney's Inn turned
Comfort Inn that he describes
at best as functional.
Its
seen its better days,
he says. I think the
sign pretty much tells the
story. Theyre using
the bottom part of the Shoneys
sign and theyve got
a tarp draped around it
and it says Comfort Inn
on top.
He
immediately greets me by
name and apologizes for
a bag of oriental food in
his hand claiming a friend
persuaded him to get takeout.
Nonetheless,
it was such a nice day we
decided to sit outside.
So we maneuver across four
lanes of traffic to a small
sandwich place with a veritable
desert of available, outside
tables.
It
looks like this place could
use the business,
says Farrar.
Never
once did I foresee the day
Id be sneaking in
outside food with the alt-country
bastion-but
my day had come.
As
we sit down, Farrar orders
a Diet Coke and politely
ignores his food for the
time being. Our waitress,
Amy, clearly notices the
bag but leaves without saying
anything.
(JF)
Were skirting the
issue here.
Yeah.
She saw the food.
(Upon
her return, Amy rattles
off the specials and Jay
confronts the issue--)
We
have sort of a situation
here
I have some takeout
food and hes probably
going to order some food.
Is that all right?
Amy
I mean, Im not going
to say anything (she awkwardly
looks around and smiles).
Ill be like, theyre
a to-go order and theyre
just sitting there.
Thanks.
(Although
Amy turned out to be really
cool, it was fairly obvious
shed never spent time
differentiating between
Son Volts Trace and
Straightaways. Or, hey,
who knows-- maybe she had.
Nevertheless, I tipped her
really well.)
I
appreciate you meeting meit
was really nice.
Likewise.
I
guess when youre touring,
you have to do a lot of
these
interviews.
Yeah.
Its something that
you have to get acclimated
to-- talking about what
you do as well as doing
what you do.
I
would imagine. So, youve
obviously played here quite
a bit through the years.
Do you like playing in Nashville?
Yeah,
its always been a
good place to play. I played
12th and Porter last time
and Ive played the
Bell Court Theatre before.
But, Ive probably
been at them all.
Its
kind of a memorable time
to be here--Johnny Cashs
funeral was yesterday. Actually
it was in Hendersonville
where he livedabout
20-25 minutes from here.
Yesterday?
Really? Yeah, I went and
saw Bill Monroe once in
a little bar near there
in one of those townsGallatin
I think it wasis that
a suburb?
Yeah.
It borders Hendersonville.
Im impressed you remembered
that town. Id actually
read somewhere you have
sort of a fixation with
American small towns like
that. Is that true?
No
not
really. I went to school
in a small town. I grew
up in a medium town. Ive
pretty much had my fill.
They have something to offer
in the short term but absolutely
nothing to offer in the
long run-at least
for what Im doing.
Im no John Cougar
(smiles).
Did
you listen to Johnny Cash?
Oh
Yeah. The riff from I
Walk the Line was
one of the first riffs I
learned on the guitar. Other
people may have been learning
Smoke on the Water,
but I was learning I
Walk the Line. Of
course, I knew Smoke
on the Water too (laughs).
There
was a show in California
and Uncle Tupelo got to
open for Johnny Cash. We
were only briefly introduced
to Johnny but June was really
sweet. She invited us out
to her ranch and stuff.
I think it must have been
Johnnys birthday or
something. But we were on
the road and couldnt
make it. Needless to say,
we were bummed.
(Amy
returns to take my order
and becomes enthusiastic
over Farrars now sprawling
food.)
Amy
Ah sushi! Man. Dang! Im
jealous.
(Jay
just smiles and nods)
So,
your new record-- Terroir
Blues. Id read that
you wanted to the go back
to a more live sound rather
than the more produced last
album, Sebastopol.
Yeah.
Terroir Blues was kind of
a dual approach. We were
going for a live feel on
most of the songs with vocals.
And those are mixed in with
the backwards-instrumental
segments, which have nothing
to do with live recording
(laughs). I kind of like
the idea of having that
kind of contrast throughout
the record.
In
general, I do favor live
recording because it retains
some more character essentially.
Even if there are a few
mistakes, you basically
get better sounds that way.
But I liked making Sebastopol
too. Its wherever
inspiration takes you. If
its having fun in
the studio putting things
together, then thats
the way to go.
In
most the reviews for the
new album, Ive noticed
people commenting on your
political stances, even
though I thought Sebastopol
had some sort of the same
agendas-songs like
Feel Free and
even Barstow.
Has there been a change
in attitude or just a newer,
more outspoken avenue?
Im
always kind of wary about
writing about politics.
There are always more people
that are into it and know
more about it. Its
more of a peripheral thing
for me in regards to songwriting.
But I want to be able to
do it if I feel it. If Im
feeling it Ill write
about it. But, no, its
something I generally try
to keep subtle and not beat
people over the head with.
You
just recently started your
own label, Act/Resist Records.
Have you found it positive
so far?
Yeah,
Its been mostly positive,
it is a learning experience
but Ive been on the
other side of the coin working
with various labels enough
to know that being involved
with your own label is the
way to go.
Its
essentially to put out only
your records right?
Yeah.
Thats the way its
setup right now-just
to do stuff that Im
involved with. I guess Im
kind of keeping it open
to putting out other releases
but Im not really
setup for that right now.
It
must be pretty empowering.
Do you think financially
this was the better way
to do it?
I
dont know yet (laughs).
Probably. My guess is it
is. Thats not the
reason I did it this way
though. I mean, the primary
reason is total control-creative
control. Its a situation
now where I can pretty much
put out what I want, whenever
I want. Record labels always
have their own schedules
and will often have their
own ideas about the end
product-the end result--because
theyre putting the
money up for it.
Well,
its amazing that youve
found your own niche and
can do it this way-with
such a devoted following
of people. This new tour
features Canyon as your
backing band. Howd
that come about?
Someone
passed their CD on to me
and I thought it was cool.
Theyre drawing from
a variety of influences
and making something new
out of it. They werent
easily categorized. I had
a chance to see them play
in D.C. and really liked
them.
Since
they are a band already,
they sort of have their
own synergistic thing going
on so Im just kind
of stepping in and enjoying
it really. I play some solo
stuff on this tour and some
band stuff so we kind of
alternate.
Youve
had quite a bit of success
overseas as well. From playing
over there, do they respond
the same?
Ive
found it generally similar.
I have a lower profile in
general over there because
I dont tour as much
and the records havent
been released in some of
the countries.
Any
memorable places you played
overseas?
Londonbeen
playing shows there and
had records released there
since Uncle Tupelo. Its
really not that much different.
Other countries have been
good too-Germany,
Spain. I like it--and I
pick up a few new words
every time (laughs).
Yeah,
I guess people are people
everywhererelate to
the same hurts and joys.
But with newer artists,
sometimes it seems like
actually conveying a message--
saying something-is
hard to come by. Do you
sometimes get disenchanted
with newer music?
Yeah.
It is easy to get pretty
cynical about new music
being thrown at you because
so much is kind of generated
by corporate record labels
and spewed out. I do look
at it positively. In the
end, its all cyclical.
Good music will come from
the underground. When everything
has reached the apex of
being bad, things will be
good again. Certainly The
White Stripes are an anomaly.
Its great they are
where they are. Its
nothing really I could have
predicted.
Do
you think, with the music
industry changes, its
getting harder for artists
to make a living at music
or do you think these things
are positivebringing
power back into the hands
of musicians?
I
see Satellite Radio and
the Internet eventually
offering some new choices.
You know, level the playing
field. But, I dont
think its harder.
Its certainly gotten
worse with the consolidation
of radio.
But
for us [Uncle Tupelo], getting
started out in St. Louis,
there werent that
many options either. We
started out in this strip
called The Loop near Washington
University in St Louis.
There were only a few clubs
to play there. I think its
generally better there now
than when we got started.
Theres a lot of clubs
to play now. But in a way,
it sort of simplified whatever
goals we hadknowing
that there was only one
club to playthat was
where we played.
The
Sony/Legacy anthology and
reissues have created quite
an Uncle Tupelo resurgence.
Do you think its a
misconception that, when
it was actually happening,
there was a monumental movement?
You werent as championed
or even as big at the time
right?
Not
big at all-we pretty
much played small clubs
across the country. There
was no sense that it was
really a movement. There
was us, the Jayhawks, and
thats about it. So
yeah, its kind of
a misconception that there
was this great movement.
Even
now touring since the Uncle
Tupelo releases, I havent
noticed a difference really.
People do seem to want to
hear some of the older songs
a little more but thats
always been there for the
most part. The main thing
that I thought was good
about it [the anthology]
was some of the unreleased
songs were put out. It kind
of gives a broader perspective
of what the band was all
about-- to have some of
that other unreleased studio
and live stuff out there.
I
finally got around to watching
The Last Waltz recently-the
Martin Scorsese film documenting
The Bands last show.
Have you seen it?
Oh,
Yeah.
In
it, theres a part
where Robbie Robertson is
talking about the road--how
its no way to live
and he cant bare to
think of more time spent
there. It seems true albeit
cliché. And youve
obviously spent a great
deal of time now on the
roadhow long now?
Approximately
13probably 15 yearsgive
or take a year.
What
are your thoughts on touring?
Well,
I think its a necessary
component of what it means
to be someone creating music.
If youre just holed
up in a studio the whole
time I think you kind of
lose touch with what its
all about.
I
do have a family now and
you kind of have to try
a little harder to make
it work but, in the same
token, its basically
what I do so my family has
become acclimated to it.
I
bet being a father has been
a huge growing experience
for you
lots of challenges
and revelations.
Yeah,
sometimes there are daily
revelations, sometimes its
a kind of cumulative effect
of appreciating your existencetheir
existence. I guess you become
a little more existential.
I dont know where
this conversation is going
(laughs). But yeah, generally
more appreciative of things
I guess. It's cool to see
the kids acknowledgment
and development-even
in regards to music. They
are trying out new language.
My son was kind like rapping
and hes three but
hes never heard hip-hop
you knowit seems like
an innate thing just working
with language that way.
Is
he generally interested
in music? I mean, I know
hes only three.
Actually,
hes more into sports
than music.
(Farrar
finishes his fortune cookie,
reads his fortune, and puts
it in his pocket)
What
did your fortune say?
Oh
yeahit was pretty
good.
(He
takes it out and reads aloud
in a mocking voice.)
Your
road will be made smooth
for you by good friends.
(He
smiles and puts it back
in his pocket and wraps
up some rice and the remainder
of his food)
Looks
like I got dinner too.
Well,
I see your songwriting on
a broad level, meaning the
many people that have related
to your music over the years.
Obviously you see this on
the road-the people
who have followed your career
and will maybe even tell
you how much they appreciate
it. Do you see that as sort
of the ultimate reward-or
more embarrassing?
Its
bothits embarrassing
and theres an element
of fulfillment in there.
Someone has been affirmative
about something that youve
created. It helps you keep
slogging it out. But I dont
necessarily think of it
in terms of what people
are going to take away from
my musicwhat theyre
going to get out of it.
I think of it in terms of
its maybe another
option out there that they
arent going to get
in mainstream media. The
definition of success for
me is just to have a creative
outletI think thats
the ultimate reward. And
hopefully, people can find
something in it.
J.D.
Rush is a writer for Goldmine
Magazine in the States and
kindly let unbarred publish
this article.
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